Page order?

[Anonymous]

Ryan

Great plugin…wondering if there is a way to have the pages sorted some way other than alphabetically? Unless I’m wrong, the plugin displays the links vertically in alphabetical order. It would be nice to adjust somehow, perhaps via the page order option in WordPress?

Thx

[Anonymous]

Ryan

Wondering if there is a way to display pages vertically other than alphabetically?

[imported_Ryan]

Yep, the built in page order feature in WordPress can control the order of the menu items.

If this isn’t working for you then let me know and I’ll look into it.

[Anonymous]

Scot, check out sorting options directly through the wordpress tags – http://codex.wordpress.org/Template_Tags/wp_list_pages

[Anonymous]

Ryan – Is there any way to have the sub-menu items ( li ul ul etc) appear to the left as opposed to the right? My menu is floating on the right side of my page and I would like the dropdown list’s sub-pages to be visible.

I understand that the default list sub-element indent is to the right, and Sukerfish depends on the wordpress tags. I tried setting the wp_list_pages depth to -1 and then reversing your css (left:-999em and left:auto) but I don’t really know what I’m doing and was just hoping that there is a way to do this. Perhaps using CSS to override the default-right-indent.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. I love this plugin!

Just to note, I am using the 1.02 version for specific reasons.

Thanks!

[imported_Ryan]

Paul – I’m sure that is possible, but the last time I tried I made a big mess of it and gave up.

I’ll get back to that at another time though and sort out a proper fix for it. It is something I would like to include in the generator at some stage.

What ’specific reason’ do you have for using version 1.02? Speed? In theory it will run slightly quicker than the newer one, but the difference should be pretty negligible.

[Anonymous]

Thanks for the quick response. I’m using 1.02 because of a couple of reasons.

1. I have built your plugin into my theme (don’t worry, gave you credit)
2. I am using ‘position:fixed’ to have the menu “stayâ€

[Anonymous]

Ryan – this is working for me, but I am not sure it is the best method:

replace:

[code:3bo7t9oy]#suckerfishnav li ul ul {
margin:-1.50em 0 0 10em;
}[/code:3bo7t9oy]

with:

[code:3bo7t9oy]#suckerfishnav li ul ul {
margin:-1.50em 0 0 -10em;
}[/code:3bo7t9oy]

Good idea? Bad idea?

[imported_Ryan]

If it works, go with it.

Make sure you’ve checked in IE6 and 7 first though as I’d guess it isn’t working in those. I can’t remember off the top of my head why I couldn’t get it to work the last time I tried, but I think that was part of the problem.

AFAIK, IE doesn’t handle negative margins very well. So you may need to use relative positioning, which would be a big can of worms to deal with! Hopefully your simple fix above does the trick though.

[Anonymous]

Works in IE6 (yet to test 7) – Your plugin uses negative margins, perhaps you are mistaking (or is there javascript helping that)?

I am experiencing “flickeringâ€

[imported_Ryan]

I’ll have a go at this tonight and see if it works. If so, I might add it as an option in the generator shortly.

I didn’t spend much more than 15 minutes on it last time before I gave up and moved on to other things, so it is possible I just missed the obvious.

The Javascript definitely isn’t doing anything with the negative margins.

[Anonymous]

Uploaded some of my site to a test server for you to see. Slow loads with ByetHost13, FreeHostia is much better.

http://paulburke.byethost13.com/wordpress/

[imported_Ryan]

That seems to be working quite nicely!

I’ll try to get that added to the generator at some stage.

Free host stink, you should get yourself a paid hosting account. I held off one getting one for quite a while, but I certainly haven’t regretted it. I use Hostgator who seem to be quite good. They investment was definitely worth it (~US$120/year).

I was quite impressed with the freehostia though, I tried them just before I got my Hostgator account and they did seem to offer a good service. I’m not sure how much traffic they can handle though. I suspect once you got beyond a few thousand uniques per month they’ll start getting ancy about your server load.

[imported_Ryan]

I was busy earlier on so didn’t get on to answer your other questions.

I also build the dropdowns into my themes instead of using the plugin! Yes that is a little weird since I designed it myself, but I find it takes about the same amount of effort to hard code them in directly. Plus there’s likely to be an imperceptible teeny weeny performance increase by doing it that way as there is no need for database queries.

You may find that using float:right is a better option for placing your menu in the top right hand corner of your page. Did you have to apply a width to the menu to do that? Because otherwise I imagine there may be an issue with the menu disappearing off the screen at larger text sizes if you haven’t. Or am I misunderstanding how position:fixed works?

The new and old plugins still display the equivalent code on your page, it’s the behind the scenes stuff which is different. So if position:fixed before and doesn’t not, I don’t think it has anything to do with the plugin per se – I have been wrong before though ” title=”Tongue” />

The “Suckerfish methodâ€

[Anonymous]

The reason I used position:fixed should be more evident when you view http://paulburke.byethost13.com/wordpress/blog/ and scroll down.

Although the fixed position does not work in IE (i am also using float:right) I’d like the menu to always be ‘on page’.

I did apply a set width to my menu (considering I only have one top element 10em)

I have since familiarized myself with the suckerfish method and the html dog tutorial. I thank you for the instructions and insights.

FreeHostia is pretty incredible. I have been using them as test servers for months now (i do most developing locally). I have experience downtimes but even their free service offers 99.9/99.8% uptime. The one time I experienced prolonged server problems, my ticket was answered within ten minutes and the problem fixed within 5. They also offer more capactity/processing/databses etc for very reasonable prices. Having used most of the ‘top’ free web hosts, I can confidently say that FreeHostia is the best, fastest, and most reliable. – I should be getting paid for that!

Besides, these are testing servers for me – of course I use paid servers for live sites.

I will continue to debug my menu and report any findings. Thanks again for your help and devotion to public service.

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